I Have To Understand

April 17th, 2015, 5:37 am

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Reply raziesgirl (Guest), April 17th, 2015, 6:36 am

Wow that's the most honest I've ever heard from Jay Well jay it's called stop stringing Lon along and just go for the guy you can't seem to get over problem solved .

Reply MegaAnimeFreak7, April 17th, 2015, 10:52 am

That's nice Jay. Now are you going to break up with Lon? Because you trying to figure out your problems doesn't deter from the fact that you're playing with BOTH of them. God, I hate people like this. Quit fucking around! You can't have your cake and eat it too. Or in this cake, you can't have two cakes.

Reply JesBelle, April 17th, 2015, 1:23 pm

Please Jay, please keep being confused, thoughtless, and selfish. Please break your heart and the hearts of these two men who love you.

Thought I'd try a little reverse psychology. Or maybe I want a happy ending but I don't want a happy ending? I want fiction that makes me think and feel things. Jason never fails at that.

Reply Phoenix (Guest), July 15th, 2015, 10:00 pm

Yeah, thanks for finally being honest, but damn, it still doesn't justify what you're doing, Jay.

The thing is, I'm polyamorous. I don't care that he likes two people, but this comic isn't meant to be polyamorous, so it's a problem because polyamory isn't a solution here (not that I'm complaining - I just want to clarify to other people reading that I don't care that Jay likes two guys, I care about his actions). Like, this happens in the real world all the time, and people have two choices - to ignore it and be a good, decent person, or to go the shitty direction and explore like Jay has because he 'has to understand'.

You really don't, buddy. This is why I think you're selfish. you're willing to break the heart of the man you just said you loved so you can understand something about a man you have decided you don't love but are fascinated about.

At this point, I'm even feeling bad for Eli. I originally didn't, because it takes two to cheat. Normally, because Eli is single, I wouldn't blame him, but considering Jay told him not to call or see him, repeatedly, and Eli didn't follow that, I was pretty pissed at him too. But Eli at least is doing this out of love, and Jay is probably just going to end up breaking his heart too.

Reply JesBelle, July 21st, 2015, 1:59 pm

@Phoenix: It's too bad that a triad is off the table, but the narrative makes a pretty big point of Lon and El hating each other. I don't really believe that Jay doesn't love Elijah. I don't think that it's in his mind that he could love them both or that the subjective experience of those two loves could be so different. So he labels what he feels for the more deserving man as "love" and what he feels for the guy who has fucked up as "fascination." I still think that Jay and El make the better couple. I love their dynamic and I like that Jay is more comfortable with himself when he's with Elijah. But I also now think that Lon deserves better than this and that he would be better off with almost anyone else in the comic except for the rapist professor.

But, yeah, Jay is selfish, sooooo selfish.

Reply Phoenix (Guest), July 23rd, 2015, 2:47 pm

@JesBelle: I agree! I haven't found a comic yet that really explores the idea of polyamory, but hey, it's not something everyone is comfortable with, so I totally get it. I'm not really sure whether I think Jay loves Elijah or if I think he's right in saying it's fascination.

((I really want to go into my thoughts on that, but I'm about to walk out the door for work, hah, so maybe another time. It has a lot to do with first loves and dramtization for the sake of a comic, yadda yadda))

I personally really like Jay and Lon, but I think I'm also jaded because I've been in the Lon position before, which suuuuucks. Or maybe I just don't like Elijah. I'm very wishy-washy on him.

Hah, but oh yeah, Jay is selfish as hell!

Reply JesBelle, July 26th, 2015, 5:12 pm

@Phoenix: I know what you mean. I think most of the comics I follow that have poly characters or stories tend to exist in a universe where everybody's just hunky-dory with that, and jealousy and rivalry don't exist. Don't get me wrong, those comics are hella fun, but they don't present the subject with much depth.

I like that Jason is selfish without being a villain and without having the rest of the cast declare that he's not selfish. It bugs me when characters are actually jerk-asses, but the writer has decided that they aren't, so the other characters need to blather onandon about how wonderful they are. Lucky for us, Jezbelizia is a better author than that.

Reply Phoenix (Guest), July 27th, 2015, 10:26 pm

@JesBelle: I haven't gotten to any yet with any poly characters! But yeah, it can definitely be difficult. I think it would be nice to see both, y'know? It's nice to pretend that no one would care, but the reality is, yeah, some people are going to care. Either your partner, if it's discovered afterwards that you're poly and they are not, or just someone else in your life.

I agree! I don't think he's completely an asshole, pardon my language, one bad fault, one mistake (or....many of the same mistake, as the case may be) doesn't make him a bad person. I'm glad that some of the other characters recognize that what he's doing it /wrong/, and are calling him out on it, because yo, if he was my friend, I would be like.....this is really not cool at all. I wouldn't stop being his friend, but yeah, I'd call him out on that. So yes, I'm very they're a much better author and haven't fallen into the 'my characters are flawless' trap!

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